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TidalWave
Mon Apr 27 2020, 10:05am Print
TidalWave
Everybody is dead Dave Registered Member #103 Joined: Tue Oct 08 2019, 02:40pm
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So I mentioned this problem before, G17 is currently impossible to obtain, there's no maybe, there is no if and there is no potential.
It is simply unobtainable as it stands right now and let me explain what the problem is with G17.
To obtain the G17 weapons you require mats from both homestead AND Uncharted paradise, The total of mats for ONE final stage weapon is as follows (Not including the rerolls required to get the best stats):

6000x Blood spirit stones

3600x Gold Plated Iron

1045 Ether jades (You only get one per day if you do the UP daily and you can make 1 with 10 sigils of nightbloom which will take 2 days minimum for 1 even with max prosperity homestead)

300 Profaned wood (Doesn't drop from any UP boss and only made with 10 sigils of nightbloom and 10 sigils of Elysium meaning that's another 2 days minimum for 1 of those)

61 Zenith Skulls (Usually only a few drop from the last boss in UP, Lord Of Paradise)

13 draconic essences (Those ALONE are going to take over 2.5 years to get granted you need to get 7600 prosperity and you need to get lucky to acquire a Crimson level homestead daily which only gives 2 of the 62 required items for 1 Draconic essence- To make 1 draconic essence you need 62 dragonbreath Sigil and those can only be acquired from Crimson level quests in homestead and only 2 per day)

As it stands right now, G17 is literally impossible to get and won't be for years to come, there needs to be some other way to obtain these weapons. They are not THAT much of an upgrade from the usual r9r4 weapons people are using nowadays.

My suggestion is this:
Create custom bosses that spawn around the map which drop all the mats needed to make the weapons (Similar to how Modis and Hermod bosses are around the main map for R9 farming and Nirvana chests and with the difficulty of the Primal bosses you created would be quite fair)
This solution will be the exact thing we need to actually be able to get G17 because otherwise you will need to do modification to all quests in HS and change Uncharted Paradise completely so people will be able to farm it and not just a daily.
The list of mats and ID's is as follows:
Dull Blood Spirit Stone - ID:50247
Dull Gold Plated Iron - ID:50253
Dull Ether jade - ID:50259
Dull Profaned Wood - ID:50261
Dull Zenith Skull - ID:50263
Dull Draconic Essence - ID:50265

I really do hope you will consider this suggestion because G17 is quite a fun addition to the game and it's about time people got to play with it!
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PoLyNoodle
Mon Apr 27 2020, 10:19am
PoLyNoodle
Everybody is dead Dave Registered Member #234 Joined: Sun Mar 29 2020, 10:01am
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After hearing from some players and counting the amount of time needed, work required and the possibility, it is nearly impossible to obtain G17 without the help of customization of obtaining mats for G17. It can take 3 years at least for daily effort of doing homestead, doing Uncharted Paradise, etc. And the fact that we need that much amount of time to get an item that is just slightly better than r9r4. And G17 has 5 stages to them, imagine the impossibility of getting it when players are struggling a little on r9r4. The suggestion for the custom bosses is highly supported, it is indeed a great help when it is done for R9 and Nirvana mats by a milestone. Hope we can get the help of the GMs and progress the server even further.
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Loki
Mon Apr 27 2020, 04:50pm
Loki
Stings When I PVP Registered Member #237 Joined: Fri Apr 10 2020, 08:26pm
Posts: 3
Oh we fully agree, I did some working out on how long it'd take on a server like this and I assume you want the gear before the sun dies?
The GMs have already talked about this and with the revamp of nirvana's cave coming, this seemed like the perfect place for said mats to become available, hopefully it will be something akin to FCC, as this has been a very popular addition. We have considered spawning the UP bosses in other places but they are linked to their puzzles mostly and become immortal, or 1 hit kill the party.

We are currently working to get all the little things fixed and out of the way so we can dedicate work time to extra content.
And on that note, if you come across anything that needs fixing please post on the forum so we have a reference of all issues that we can work through.
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TidalWave
Mon Apr 27 2020, 05:06pm
TidalWave
Everybody is dead Dave Registered Member #103 Joined: Tue Oct 08 2019, 02:40pm
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Thank you Loki, quite the promising reply, but please make sure it's the right mats and not just the drops from UP.
The mats I mentioned above are all you need to have the bosses in the revamp of nirvana to drop, it will take away the homestead part from G17 which like you said, will take basically until the sun dies..
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Khione
Sat May 02 2020, 06:15pm
Khione
Everybody is dead Dave Registered Member #230 Joined: Sun Mar 15 2020, 10:59pm
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On point! Can't wait to see this plan in action!
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